From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 16:23 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA17099 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:23:47 +0200 Received: from by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AB13524; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:22:18 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4950-1>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:20:26 -0400 Received: from lumiere.idris.fr ([130.84.8.14]) by list.cren.net with ESMTP id <4874-2>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:19:30 -0400 Received: from sailor.idris.fr (ssos006@sailor.idris.fr [130.84.12.91]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id QAA28568; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:18:55 +0200 Received: (from ssos006@localhost) by sailor.idris.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA34091; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:18:51 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506151418.QAA34091@sailor.idris.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:18:51 +0100 Reply-To: mercier@idris.fr Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Mercier Claude To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Mail sympha !! a vous de juger !! In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:51:05 D. X-To: pilou@uucom.com X-Cc: List About Everything French X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1910 Status: RO > Je tenais a vous faire parvenir ce mail (qui n'est pas le seul du genre) > Vous me direz ce que vous en penser!. > N'oublier pas de lire le sujet du mail !!! > > <--include--> > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 23:05:34 -0400 > From: uid no body > Reply-to: G.Howell@mcauley.acu.edu.au (Gordon Howell) > Subject: French Bastards > Apparently-To: webmaster@town.hall.org > > G.Howell@mcauley.acu.edu.au (Gordon Howell) sent the following > comment about http://town.hall.org/travel/france/france.html: > ------------------------------------------------------------ > I'm sending this message as a protest, on seeing a french embassy home page. > If this is hosted on your machine, you should remove the home page until the > french decide to do nuclear tests in france and not in the pacific. > I'f the french president has an email address, I would appreciate it > > > Gordon Howell > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Server protocol: HTTP/1.0 > Remote host: 192.148.225.5 > Remote IP address: 192.148.225.5 > User Agent: Mozilla/1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) > > <--fin d'inclusion--> > > Merci !! > Phil en colere quand il it ce type de message au reveille!!! > -- > **--** ~~ ~ @.@ ~~ > Philippe Tabaux Email: pilou@uucom.com (---) ~ > UUcom, Inc. Voice: 703 824 1612 ~ ~ <|)_(|> ~~ > **--** ~~ ~~~ ~~~ > POURQUOI IL EST BIEN CE MEC !!! moi aussi je proteste. Et suis tres contente de me faire traite'e de batarde a cette occasion meme si je n'y suis pour rien n'ayant pas vote' pour chirac. |>---------------------------------------------------------------------<| Claude MERCIER - mercier@idris.fr - 69 82 41 03 - 69 82 42 00 (SU) |>---------------------------------------------------------------------<| From nobody@acs.itd.uts.edu.au Thu Jun 15 15:41 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA16200 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 15:40:47 +0200 Received: from sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA12150; Thu, 15 Jun 95 15:38:57 +0200 Received: from pc1020-08.itd.uts.EDU.AU by sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA07088 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 23:38:20 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506151338.AA07088@sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU> From: "U.T.S. Student At Broadway Campus." Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 23:11:22 1100 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: URGENT HELP NEEDED! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 396 Status: RO Hello I am writing to you URGENTLY seeking information as to how to contact the President's office (Jacques Chirac). I am looking for and e-mail address where messages can be sent so that they directly reach the President's office. If you can not help me with this, can you please supply me with an e-mail address for the French Government? Thank-you in advance pjwright@acs.itd.uts.edu.au From bbarber@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU Thu Jun 15 04:16 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA08337 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 04:16:12 +0200 Received: from budapest.ozonline.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA00175; Thu, 15 Jun 95 04:14:39 +0200 Received: from brandh.ozonline.com.au (brandh.ozonline.com.au [203.4.248.83]) by budapest.ozonline.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA27997 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:38:34 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506150038.KAA27997@budapest.ozonline.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:16:04 -0700 From: Branden Barber X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Subject: email addresses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 316 Status: RO Bonjour! Je suis un etudiant en Australie et je voudrais avoir les addresses du gouvernement de France. En particular, l'addresse de le Premiere Ministre nouveau, Jacques Chirac. Est-ce que vous pouvez m'aider? J'espere que ma francaise est bien...j'ai besoin de practique! Merci beaucoup... Branden Barber From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 14:07 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA14042 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:07:46 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA09458; Thu, 15 Jun 95 14:06:18 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4032-1>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:04:14 -0400 Received: from lumiere.idris.fr ([130.84.8.14]) by list.cren.net with ESMTP id <3872-4>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:03:44 -0400 Received: from sailor.idris.fr (ssos006@sailor.idris.fr [130.84.12.91]) by lumiere.idris.fr (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA24793; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:03:26 +0200 Received: (from ssos006@localhost) by sailor.idris.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA127077; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:03:25 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506151203.OAA127077@sailor.idris.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 14:03:25 +0100 Reply-To: mercier@idris.fr Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Mercier Claude To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:02:05 O. X-To: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr X-Cc: List About Everything French X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1412 Status: RO ..... > CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires > avant son election. > ____________________________________________________________________ > | Alain LAUVERJAT | E-mail: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr | > | Laboratoire de sismologie | | > | 5 rue Descartes | Telephone: (33) 88 41 64 96 | > | F 67084 Strasbourg | Telecopie: (33) 88 61 67 47 | > |___________________________|_______________________________________| > ca non, il en avait parle' lors de son heure de speech avec jospin, il a dit qu'il prendrait l'avis des experts (technique) et qu'il prendrait la decision en consequence. et les francais ont tout de meme vote' pour lui. (alors qu'il etait assez previsible que les techniciens veulent reprendre !) C'est comme ca, ca n'empeche pas de protester. A ce sujet quelqu'un m'a dit que lors de la campagne, les mails a jospin arrivaient et on avait une reponse directe, les mails a chirac etaient imprimes et passaient par le courrier normal. Quelqu'un a-t-il l'adresse E-mail de chirac ? si oui donnez-la nous, en plus ca permettra a beaucoup de se plaindre... claude |>---------------------------------------------------------------------<| Claude MERCIER - mercier@idris.fr - 69 82 41 03 - 69 82 42 00 (SU) |>---------------------------------------------------------------------<| From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 00:55 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA07781 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:55:51 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17361; Thu, 15 Jun 95 00:54:26 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4381-1>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:51:06 -0400 Received: from redgate.vislab.su.edu.au ([129.78.157.26]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4852-7>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:49:55 -0400 Received: from cazneaux.vislab.su.edu.au by redgate.vislab.su.edu.au via ESMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for id IAA07920; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:49:36 +1000 Received: by cazneaux.vislab.su.edu.au (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for frenchtalk@list.cren.net id IAA09028; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:49:35 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9506150849.ZM9026@cazneaux.vislab.su.edu.au> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:49:35 -0400 Reply-To: nicole@vislab.su.edu.au Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: "Nicole Bordes" To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1261 Status: RO > > From: Moccozet Laurent > > Ca y est, la decision est prise. Le premier message que notre tout > > nouveau president a envoye au reste du monde est un message de > > paix : la france reprend ses essais nucleaires. > > > Bubulle ecrit > Et en plus, il va falloir se depecher de les faire avant la signature du > traite !!!!! > > Tous les ingredients sont la pour une belle catastrophe...... je vous tiens au courant de l'humeur australienne si ca vous interesse!!! Hier (avant que la decision ne soit prise par JC), il y avait des rumeurs d'envoyer l'australian navy vers Mururoa. Puisque les francais n'ont vraiment aucun droit a la parole, pensez-vous que la France soit toujours une democratie? Nicole -- ************************************************************************* * Nicole Bordes Internet: nicole@emu.su.oz.au * * Electron Microscope Unit Telephone: (61)-2-351 2351 (Dept) * * The University of Sydney Facsimile: (61)-2-552 1967 * * NSW 2006, Australia http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/emu * * http://www.usyd.edu.au/su/emu/OZ * ************************************************************************* From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 13:11 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA13240 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:11:29 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA08476; Thu, 15 Jun 95 13:09:58 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <3887-9>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:08:34 -0400 Received: from yukon.cren.org ([198.76.81.3]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <3778-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:08:03 -0400 Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by yukon.cren.org (8.6.10/1.34 (CREN)) id HAA25461; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:07:58 -0400 Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15350; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:10:34 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:07:42 +0100 Received: from slc4 (slc4.tees) by scorch; Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:09:48 BST Return-Path: Message-Id: <18337.9506151109@slc4> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 12:09:41 BST Reply-To: CM-C.W.Servagnat@tees.ac.uk Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Servagnat Christian P W -BSc IBIT To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) X-To: frenchtalk@yukon.cren.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 281 Status: RO Salut >CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires >avant son election. Il a mentionne la reprise des essais lors de son debat televise avec L.Jospin. En fait il na pas dit qu'il reprendrait les essais mais qu'il le ferait si c'etait juge necessaire. Christian From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 09:59 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA10075 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:59:37 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03287; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:58:12 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4383-7>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:55:57 -0400 Received: from dicsmss1.jrc.it ([139.191.1.65]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4184-7>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:55:25 -0400 Received: from lip.irsa.jrc.it (lipsun.jrc.it) by dicsmss1.jrc.it (4.1/EB-950131-C) id AA22494; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:56:29 +0200 Received: from epsilon.jrc.it. by lip.irsa.jrc.it (4.1/EI-3.0m) id AA04112; Thu, 15 Jun 95 08:54:15 +0200 Received: from localhost by epsilon.jrc.it. (5.65/SMI-4.1) id AA07551; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:55:59 +0200 Message-Id: <9506150755.AA07551@epsilon.jrc.it.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address Return-Path: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:55:58 +0200 Reply-To: alice.bernard@jrc.it Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: alice.bernard@jrc.it To: List About Everything French Subject: les francais In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:32:00 +0200." X-Cc: alice@jrc.it X-Mts: smtp X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Message-Id: <95Jun15.035557-0400edt.4383-7+854@list.cren.net> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 823 Status: RO suite au message de Philippe >Le peuple francais a decide d'elire Jacques Chirac president de la >republique. Sans revenir sur des debats subjectifs sur Chirac, je pense >qu'il faut quand meme respecter ce choix, cette DECISION des francais. j'aimerais quand meme lui rapeller que ce n'est pas 'le peuple francais' qui a elu Jacques Chirac mais seulement 52% de ceux qui ont eu droit au vote. Ce n'est donc pas 'une DECISION des francais', c'est une decision de la MOITIE des francais. Cela dit, il est clair que je respecte le choix qui a ete fait. Je n'ai cependant pas a respecter TOUTES les decisions qui sont prises pas Jacques Chirac et je suis sure qu'il y a beaucoup de personnes qui ont vote pour lui qui ne sont pas pour autant d'accord avec lui sur ce point. alice au pays deces!@$^&*denuagesencore From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 09:56 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA09995 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:56:21 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03228; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:54:54 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4372-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:52:57 -0400 Received: from isis.u-strasbg.fr ([130.79.200.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4359-2>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:52:43 -0400 Received: from klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.2.62]) by isis.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA08914; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:50:27 +0200 Received: by klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15856; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:52:38 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9506150752.AA15856@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:52:38 +0200 Reply-To: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (Alain LAUVERJAT) To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) X-To: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr, pdelpal@dxcoms.cern.ch X-Cc: frenchtalk@list.cren.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1196 Status: RO | From pdelpal@dxcoms.cern.ch Thu Jun 15 09:41:59 1995 | 2. Le peuple francais a decide d'elire Jacques Chirac president | de la republique. Sans revenir sur des debats subjectifs sur | Chirac, je pense qu'il faut quand meme respecter ce choix, | cette DECISION des francais. Je le respecte. D'autant que je n'ai pas d'autre possibilite. | 3. "CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires | avant son election." nous dit alain. C'est faux ! Peut-etre | n'as tu pas bien fait attention a ce que tu as du recevoir dans | ta boite a lettre... Sur son programme, envoye a cote de celui | des autres candidats, Chirac a expressement mentionne la | reprise des essais nucleaires. Au temps pour moi. Je n'ai effectivement pas lu attentivement tous les programmes. ____________________________________________________________________ | Alain LAUVERJAT | E-mail: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr | | Laboratoire de sismologie | | | 5 rue Descartes | Telephone: (33) 88 41 64 96 | | F 67084 Strasbourg | Telecopie: (33) 88 61 67 47 | |___________________________|_______________________________________| From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 09:45 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA09867 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:45:41 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03000; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:44:15 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4354-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:42:11 -0400 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch ([128.141.1.113]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <3966-3>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:41:56 -0400 Received: from dxcoms.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA08291; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:41:54 +0200 Received: by dxcoms.cern.ch id AA22725; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:41:52 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:32:00 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: pdelpal@dxcoms.cern.ch Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: "Ph. Delpal" To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) In-Reply-To: <9506150702.AA15628@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-To: Alain LAUVERJAT X-Cc: List About Everything French X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1759 Status: RO On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Alain LAUVERJAT wrote: > | From nicole@vislab.su.edu.au > | Puisque les francais n'ont vraiment aucun droit a la parole, > | pensez-vous que la France soit toujours une democratie? > | > | Nicole > > Democratie d'apres son ethymologie veut dire "decision du > peuple". Le peuple francais n'a jamais rien decide. Il > choisit de temps en temps ceux qui vont decider pour lui, > d'apres des promesses electorales qui ne sont pas tenues. > > CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires > avant son election. > Alain LAUVERJAT Quelques petites remarques : 1. Comment peut-on dire que les francais n'ont aucun droit a la parole apres un long debat pour la presidentielle et en pleine periode electorale pour les municipales ? 2. Le peuple francais a decide d'elire Jacques Chirac president de la republique. Sans revenir sur des debats subjectifs sur Chirac, je pense qu'il faut quand meme respecter ce choix, cette DECISION des francais. 3. "CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires avant son election." nous dit alain. C'est faux ! Peut-etre n'as tu pas bien fait attention a ce que tu as du recevoir dans ta boite a lettre... Sur son programme, envoye a cote de celui des autres candidats, Chirac a expressement mentionne la reprise des essais nucleaires. 4. Sans pour autant etre personnellement convaincu de l'opportunite et de l'utilite de ces tests, je m'etonne des reactions surprises de certains medias ou de certaines personnes. Ce n'etait vraiment un secret pour personne que Chirac voulait reprendre les essais nucleaires... Pour une fois que des promesses sont tenues !! Ceci dit, j'espere qu'il s'attachera a tenir aussi bien ses promesses sur l'education et l'emploi. -Philippe From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 09:10 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA09550 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:10:06 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02335; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:08:41 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4255-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:06:41 -0400 Received: from isis.u-strasbg.fr ([130.79.200.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4220-4>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 03:05:55 -0400 Received: from klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.2.62]) by isis.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA07666; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:59:52 +0200 Received: by klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15628; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:02:05 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <9506150702.AA15628@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:02:05 +0200 Reply-To: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr (Alain LAUVERJAT) To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) X-To: frenchtalk@list.cren.net, nicole@vislab.su.edu.au X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1057 Status: RO | From nicole@vislab.su.edu.au | Puisque les francais n'ont vraiment aucun droit a la parole, | pensez-vous que la France soit toujours une democratie? | | Nicole | | -- | ************************************************************************* | * Nicole Bordes Internet: nicole@emu.su.oz.au * Democratie d'apres son ethymologie veut dire "decision du peuple". Le peuple francais n'a jamais rien decide. Il choisit de temps en temps ceux qui vont decider pour lui, d'apres des promesses electorales qui ne sont pas tenues. CHIRAC s'est bien garde de parler des essais nucleaires avant son election. ____________________________________________________________________ | Alain LAUVERJAT | E-mail: lauverja@klakmuf.u-strasbg.fr | | Laboratoire de sismologie | | | 5 rue Descartes | Telephone: (33) 88 41 64 96 | | F 67084 Strasbourg | Telecopie: (33) 88 61 67 47 | |___________________________|_______________________________________| From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 09:02 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA09485 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:02:04 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02163; Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:00:40 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4205-2>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:57:47 -0400 Received: from goddard.anu.edu.au ([150.203.45.32]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4204-2>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 02:57:17 -0400 Received: (from stef@localhost) by goddard.anu.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00402; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:56:54 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506150656.QAA00402@goddard.anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:56:54 +1000 Reply-To: Stephane.Armand@faceng.anu.edu.au Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Stephane Armand To: List About Everything French X-Cc: stef@faceng.anu.edu.au X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1123 Status: RO Salut a vous tous. Je me suis relogue pour voir si cela s'etait un peu calme apres les furies de la semaine derniere. En reponse a Alex, je peux dire que oui l'australie est vraiment en etat de choc apres l'annonce du nouveau president francais. Il n'y a pas de nouvelles (radio, TV, journaux) sans que l'on ne parle de Chirac par ci, Chirac par la... Et de l'extreme arrogance des francais de relancer les essais d'un colonialisme honteux en cette fin de siecle du bien evident proble de l'environement, Apres ! Alors, c'est sur que tous les liens economiques, militaires, scientifique et culturel sont suspendus. Et cela a l'air d'etre encore plus dur pour la nouvelle zelande et les pays du pacifique... Je ne vous raconte pas les remarques que je peux recevoir sans arret. Et cela ne fais que commencer, le Raimbow Warrior est en route pour l'atoll ! Enfin bon, je peux vous tenir au courant de l'ambiance qui monte par ici... see ya. __ /\ / |_/ \ | \ Stef d'Oz. \ __ */ \_/ \__/ __ Stephane.Armand@faceng.anu.edu.au \/ From abarfoot@netspace.net.au Wed Jun 14 16:15 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA02175 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:15:19 +0200 Received: from stang.netspace.net.au (netspace.net.au) by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02992; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:13:45 +0200 Received: from dialup-a1.netspace.net.au (dialup-a1.netspace.net.au [203.12.52.1]) by stang.netspace.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA25035 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:13:31 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506141413.AAA25035@stang.netspace.net.au> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 22:57:55 -0700 From: Andrew Barfoot X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 673 Status: RO Why don'y you people take your bombs and explode them in France -- after all thay are safe. Australians and New Zealanders helped save your country twice this century. We didn't do it so you could polute the Pacific with your bombs or so that you could send murderers to New Zealand. Worst part is you take the murderers home and praise them. Your new government should be aplolgising to the family of the murdered person, New Zealand and all the pacific nations you endangered - not seting off more bombs. I for one will by boycotting french goods, services and products. Many others will do the same. ^^^^^^ The lower case was deliberate. Go away.. From Lukasz_Kawecki@mindlink.bc.ca Thu Jun 15 01:20 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA07879 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 01:20:35 +0200 Received: from deep.rsoft.bc.ca by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA25266; Thu, 15 Jun 95 01:19:07 +0200 Received: from line094.nwm.mindlink.net by deep.rsoft.bc.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sM1i0-0000QoC; Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:18 PDT Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:20:23 -0700 From: Lukasz Kawecki Organization: Luksoft Systems International X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 37 Status: RO Please stop nuclear testing!!!! From jimbo@iinet.com.au Wed Jun 14 07:35 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA25270 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:35:28 +0200 Received: from classic.iinet.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA24927; Wed, 14 Jun 95 07:34:01 +0200 Received: from jazz185.dy.iinet.net.au (jazz185.dy.iinet.net.au [203.8.222.185]) by classic.iinet.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA03822 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:33:07 +0800 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506140533.NAA03822@classic.iinet.com.au> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 13:34:40 -0700 From: James Gall Organization: iiNet Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 217 Status: RO I have been trying to find someone to send a mail to regarding the decision to commence Nuclear testing in the Pacific. Do you know of any Government representatives that I could communicate with over the Net? From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Wed Jun 14 19:22 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA05231 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 19:22:37 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05877; Wed, 14 Jun 95 19:21:04 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5208-2>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:18:57 -0400 Received: from jupiter.genetics.bio-rad.com ([192.153.51.131]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5188-10>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:18:45 -0400 Received: from mars.genetics.bio-rad.com by jupiter.genetics.bio-rad.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12813; Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:18:32 PDT Return-Path: Message-Id: <9506141718.AA12813@jupiter.genetics.bio-rad.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:18:32 PDT Reply-To: rperrier@genetics.bio-rad.com Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: rperrier@genetics.bio-rad.com (Rene Perrier 6594) To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1127 Status: RO > From: Moccozet Laurent merci Laurent pour ces bonnes nouvelles... > Ca y est, la decision est prise. Le premier message que notre tout > nouveau president a envoye au reste du monde est un message de > paix : la france reprend ses essais nucleaires. > > Ce matin sur france inter, un des specialistes rpr de la defense > justifiait la decision et sa rapidite sur deux point s: > > la premier est d'un cynisme qui fait plaisir a voir : > > - il va bientot y avoir un traite d'arret des essais a signer. Diploma > tiquement la france ne peut que le signer, mais il faut que cette > signature ne mette pas en jeu sa force nucleaire. Donc depechons > nous de fignoler les essais maintenant, pour pouvoir continuer > les tests en simulation une fois qu'on aura signer le traite > d'arret des tests. C'est dire l'importance d'un tel traite. > Et pour ceux qui aurait cru que c'etait un pas vers le desarmement > nucleaire... Et en plus, il va falloir se depecher de les faire avant la signature du traite !!!!! Tous les ingredients sont la pour une belle catastrophe...... Mama mia :-( Bubulle From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Wed Jun 14 17:18 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA03078 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:18:02 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA04569; Wed, 14 Jun 95 17:16:36 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5002-5>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:14:23 -0400 Received: from aslvx1.sugar-land.anadrill.slb.com ([163.185.21.11]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4981-8>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:13:57 -0400 Received: from perrys-pc ([163.185.21.236]) by aslvx1.sugar-land.anadrill.slb.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 10:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: Message-Id: <95Jun14.111357-0400edt.4981-8+664@list.cren.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:13:56 -0400 Reply-To: sperry@sugar-land.anadrill.slb.com Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: sperry@sugar-land.anadrill.slb.com (Stephane Perry) To: List About Everything French Subject: Chichi fait chier... Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sperry@aslvx1.sugar-land.anadrill.slb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Length: 635 Status: RO Chui ecoeure... je viens de lire les infos RFI d'aujourd'hui : En resume, reprise des essais nucleaires francais, L'Australie, la Nouvelle-Zelande, et les States affirment leur stupefaction et affichent leur mecontentement. Resultat : rupture des relations militaires avec la France, ce qui, entre autres, veut dire fini les cooperants francais sur leur sols... Moi qui etait a la recherche d'un VSNE, je peux dire adieu a ces 3 pays... et je suis sur que la liste va encore s'allonger... Merci Chichi... Adieu... (sniff) ;-( Stephane PERRY PS : tiens pour me remonter le moral : " MAKE MAGIC DISAPPEAR - GO ROCKETS " From pdavis@ozonline.com.au Wed Jun 14 13:55 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA29797 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:54:42 +0200 Received: from budapest.ozonline.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA01141; Wed, 14 Jun 95 13:51:50 +0200 Received: from pdavish (pdavish.ozonline.com.au [203.4.249.121]) by budapest.ozonline.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA13836 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:36:15 +1000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:36:15 +1000 Message-Id: <199506141036.UAA13836@budapest.ozonline.com.au> From: "pdavis@ozonline.com.au" To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/0.9 Beta (Windows) Subject: nucliear testing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 341 Status: RO ok gang this is nothing to do with all you computer doods but can you pleas send this on to the polititions and wore mungers WE DONT WONT ANY OF YOUR DIRTY FILTHEY BOMBS DETONATED IN OUR HEMISFER stop nuclier testing or we will find a way of detonating one of your own filthey boms in your own FILTHEY country you Arigent French pigs From drbrett@well.com Tue Jun 13 02:00 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA10569 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 13 Jun 1995 02:00:38 +0200 Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03605; Tue, 13 Jun 95 01:59:02 +0200 Received: from slsyd1p61.ozemail.com.au (slsyd1p61.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.77]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA16711 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 09:58:42 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506122358.JAA16711@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> From: Dr Brett wayn Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 10:03:12 -2400 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Macintosh) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: http://www.ensmp.fr/~scherer/adminet/min-pm.html X-Url: http://www.ensmp.fr/~scherer/adminet/min-pm.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 363 Status: RO Cher Monsieur/Chere Madame J'espere que vouz parlez anglais un petit peu. I wonder if any French government ministers have e-mail addresses? If so, where could I find them? I wish to write about my concern for M. Chirac's intention to recommence nuclear testing in Muroroa. I hope that you are able to assist. Merci pour votre assistance, Dr. Brett Wayn From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Wed Jun 14 08:54 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA25552 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:54:33 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA25301; Wed, 14 Jun 95 08:53:08 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4349-2>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 02:50:59 -0400 Received: from chx400.switch.ch ([130.59.1.2]) by list.cren.net with ESMTP id <4340-3>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 02:50:17 -0400 Relayed; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:49:14 +0200 Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:49:08 +0200 Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:49:04 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <2917*/S=moccozet/OU=cui/O=unige/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/@MHS> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:49:04 +0200 Reply-To: moccozet@CUI.UNIGE.CH Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Moccozet Laurent To: List About Everything French Subject: Boum quand votre coeur fait boum (suite) Content-Identifier: 2917 X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1869 Status: RO Ca y est, la decision est prise. Le premier message que notre tout nouveau president a envoye au reste du monde est un message de paix : la france reprend ses essais nucleaires. Ce matin sur france inter, un des specialistes rpr de la defense justifiait la decision et sa rapidite sur deux point s: la premier est d'un cynisme qui fait plaisir a voir : - il va bientot y avoir un traite d'arret des essais a signer. Diploma tiquement la france ne peut que le signer, mais il faut que cette signature ne mette pas en jeu sa force nucleaire. Donc depechons nous de fignoler les essais maintenant, pour pouvoir continuer les tests en simulation une fois qu'on aura signer le traite d'arret des tests. C'est dire l'importance d'un tel traite. Et pour ceux qui aurait cru que c'etait un pas vers le desarmement nucleaire... Le second est encore dans le meme genre : - le monde est instable, il faut donc etre en mesure de rester au top de ce qui se fait en nucleaire : regardez la bosnie (parce qu'il est bien connu qu'en bosnie on se bat a coup de bombinettes nucleaires). Et regardez tous ses pays, qui comme l'iran sont prets a tout pour avoir quelque tetes nucleaires meme rustiques. Justement, si eux ils reussissent a nous faire peut avec des armes nucleaires rustiques, c'est que meme rustiques ces armes sont dissuasives. Donc les notres dans l'etat ou elles sont devraient l'etre aussi. D'une facon generale, si le but d'une arme nucleaire est la dissuasion, une bombe meme 'rustique' comme celles qui sont tombees sur le japon me parait plus que dissuasive. Alors en quoi le 'progres' des armes permet-il d'ameliorer la dissuasion ? Mais nos journaux rapellent que meme si elle est contestable, cette decision est tout a fait gaulienne. Voila la raison de la decision : le besoin d'affirmer une filiation ? Ah les histoires de famille ;-) !!!! Laurent From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 16:49 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA17436 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:49:42 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA14459; Thu, 15 Jun 95 16:48:18 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4724-9>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:44:31 -0400 Received: from yukon.cren.org ([198.76.81.3]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4703-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:43:51 -0400 Received: from mail2.imf.org by yukon.cren.org (8.6.10/1.34 (CREN)) id KAA26674; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:43:49 -0400 Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: 15 Jun 95 10:35:53 EDT Reply-To: WP#123#WHD1S.OED1S#c#MBRONDYSHERMAN#125#@imf.org Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: WP#123#WHD1S.OED1S#c#MBRONDYSHERMAN#125#@imf.org To: List About Everything French Subject: La Chiraquienlit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-To: frenchtalk@yukon.cren.org X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 15-Jun-1995 10:35:14 -0400; at mail2.imf X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 567 Status: RO A tous les Australiens et Neo-Zelandais sur la liste: j'ai honte de mon pays! Consternee que cet excite' de Chirac ait choisi de reprendre les essais nucleaires... Surtout avant le moratorium auquel tout le monde souscrit. Je trouve cela tellement pueril: "bon, on se depeche de faire nos tests avant le coup de sifflet qui indiquera que la recre est finie". Des gamins qui font leur dernier mauvais coup pendant que c'est encore permis. Tsk! Pfeuh! Blah! J'espere que Greenpeace va faire quelque chose de GRAND! Voila! Merci de votre attention. Michaelle. A+ From bao@access.digex.net Thu Jun 15 17:52 MET 1995 Received: from fontainebleau.ensmp.fr (fontainebleau) by paris with SMTP id AA18740 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 17:52:24 +0200 Received: from access2.digex.net by fontainebleau.ensmp.fr with SMTP id AA06674 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 17:56:13 +0200 Received: (from bao@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA23453 ; for ; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:49:13 -0400 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:49:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruno Oudet X-Sender: bao@access2.digex.net To: Christian SCHERER Subject: Re: Mail sympha !! a vous de juger !! (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9506151432.AA13687@manitou> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 249 Status: RO J'ai appris que la Maison Blanche avait achete un programme fait en Angleterre pour gerer son mail. Je n'en sais pas plus. Il y en a qui saturent notre fax. Nous allons etre sature de courrier electronique assez vite. Interessant. A suivre. Bruno From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 18:20 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA19083 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:20:07 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16653; Thu, 15 Jun 95 18:18:40 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4974-3>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:16:40 -0400 Received: from frcpn11.in2p3.fr ([134.158.69.66]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4972-3>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:15:53 -0400 Received: from FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR by frcpn11.in2p3.fr (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4601; Thu, 15 Jun 95 18:15:54 SET Received: from FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR (NJE origin DDURAND@FRCPN11) by FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0047; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:15:55 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: <950615.181554.SET.DDURAND@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 18:06:16 SET Reply-To: DDURAND@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: DURAND Jean-Damien To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Chirac - essai nucleaire (suite) X-To: FRENCHTALK X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 829 Status: RO Une info interessant, tiree du Monde: "Les pays detenteurs du 'feu nucleaire' ont procede a 2024 essais nucleaires de puis la fin de la 2nde guerre mondiale. Les US ont realise 815 experiences souterraines et 215 aeriennes depuis 1945. L' ancienne URSS (et la Russie, depuis) comptabilise 508 tirs souterrains et 207 aeriens depuis 1949. La Grande-Bretagne a realise 24 experiences souterraines et 21 tirs atmospheriques depuis 1952. La Chine a procede a 18 essais souterrains et 23 aeriens depuis 1964. La France est responsable de 192 experimentations depuis 1960. L' Inde a realise un essai en 1974. Les deux annees ou l' on a enregistre le plus grand nombre de tirs de toutes sortes ont ete l' annee 1958 (avec 117 essais) et l' annee 1962 (avec 171 experiences)." Jean-Damien From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 17:59 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA18824 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 17:59:25 +0200 Received: from by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AB16399; Thu, 15 Jun 95 17:58:01 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4910-6>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:56:13 -0400 Received: from aix1.uottawa.ca ([137.122.33.202]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4888-10>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:55:45 -0400 Received: by aix1.uottawa.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA86538; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:58:42 -0400 Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: s062081@aix1.uottawa.ca Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: Chirac - essai nucleaire (suite) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-To: "Ph. Delpal" X-Cc: List About Everything French X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1185 Status: O On Thu, 15 Jun 1995, Ph. Delpal wrote: > 4. Sans pour autant etre personnellement convaincu de l'opportunite et de > l'utilite de ces tests, je m'etonne des reactions surprises de certains > medias ou de certaines personnes. Ce n'etait vraiment un secret pour > personne que Chirac voulait reprendre les essais nucleaires... > Pour une fois que des promesses sont tenues !! > Ceci dit, j'espere qu'il s'attachera a tenir aussi bien ses promesses sur > l'education et l'emploi. > > -Philippe > Surprise?? C'est pas tres convaincant, surtout que Chichi nous annonce ca la veille de sa rencontre avec Clinton et quelques jours avant le G7 a Halifax (Canada). Il manque a la France 8 essais nucleaires avant de pouvoir fabriquer son simulateur avec ses petits bras muscles. C'est con parce que justement les americains - s'ils tenaient vraiment a ce qu'on arrete les essais - pourraient nous les filer avant. Bref. Mise en scene. Chantage. Juste avant de rencontrer Clinton. Et peut etre vont-ils avoir des raisons serieuses de discuter du fameux simulateur. Que voulez-vous il faut toujours des arguments convainquants pour etoffer une rencontre comme celle-la. Brigitte From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 18:44 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA19440 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:44:37 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16780; Thu, 15 Jun 95 18:43:12 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4968-1>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:41:45 -0400 Received: from dxmint.cern.ch ([128.141.1.113]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <4968-10>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 12:41:20 -0400 Received: from sunra1.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA04517; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:41:14 +0200 Received: from suncms.cern.ch by sunra1.cern.ch (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA22151; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:41:13 --100 Received: by suncms.cern.ch (5.0/client-1.5) id AA07699; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:41:12 +0200 Return-Path: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 18:41:11 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: gillot@sunra1.cern.ch Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: Jean Francois Gillot To: List About Everything French Subject: essai nucleaire (remarque) In-Reply-To: <950615.181554.SET.DDURAND@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-To: DURAND Jean-Damien X-Cc: List About Everything French X-Sender: gillot@suncms X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1443 Status: O Un petit truc amusant, c'est que pour tous les pays Le Monde mentionne les essais aeriens et les souterrains, sauf pour la France, comme s'il etait evident que tous les essais avaient ete sousterrains. Ce qui est totalement faux, et d'ailleurs, il y a eu l'annee derniere une tres bonne emission de Arte sur ce Sujet, ou l'on apprenait que les Polynesiens n' etaient absoluement pas proteges lors de ces essais, contrairement aux militaires, et toutes les consequences qui s'en suivirent. Jeff. --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Une info interessant, tiree du Monde: > > "Les pays detenteurs du 'feu nucleaire' ont procede a 2024 essais > nucleaires de puis la fin de la 2nde guerre mondiale. Les US ont > realise 815 experiences souterraines et 215 aeriennes depuis 1945. > L' ancienne URSS (et la Russie, depuis) comptabilise 508 tirs > souterrains et 207 aeriens depuis 1949. > La Grande-Bretagne a realise 24 experiences souterraines et 21 > tirs atmospheriques depuis 1952. La Chine a procede a 18 essais > souterrains et 23 aeriens depuis 1964. La France est responsable de > 192 experimentations depuis 1960. L' Inde a realise un essai en 1974. > Les deux annees ou l' on a enregistre le plus grand nombre de tirs de > toutes sortes ont ete l' annee 1958 (avec 117 essais) et l' annee 1962 > (avec 171 experiences)." > > Jean-Damien > > From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 20:12 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA20161 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 20:12:06 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17521; Thu, 15 Jun 95 20:10:41 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5129-5>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:09:51 -0400 Received: from myriad.cis.pitt.edu ([136.142.186.16]) by list.cren.net with ESMTP id <5121-10>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:09:35 -0400 Received: from vms.cis.pitt.edu by vms.cis.pitt.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #10002) id <01HRQKG7BLUO95N3TO@vms.cis.pitt.edu>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Return-Path: Message-Id: <01HRQKG7DCYQ95N3TO@vms.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: OVASSEUR@vms.cis.pitt.edu Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: CAPT'AIN To: List About Everything French Subject: Re: essai nucleaire (remarque) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: gillot@sunra1.cern.ch X-Cc: frenchtalk@list.cren.net X-Envelope-To: frenchtalk@list.cren.net X-Vms-To: IN%"gillot@sunra1.cern.ch" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"frenchtalk@list.cren.net" X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 314 Status: O Ce qui est impressionnant c'est la difference entre la GB et la France...une cinquantaine d'essais contre environ 200.... ou bien les francis sont nuls.. ou bien les anglais savent mieux exploiter les resultats (ce qui revient au meme sauf si les americains filent leur secrets qu'aux britanniques...) Capt'ain From owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net Thu Jun 15 19:13 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA19674 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Jun 1995 19:13:18 +0200 Received: from list.cren.net by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16932; Thu, 15 Jun 95 19:11:55 +0200 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5044-6>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:10:07 -0400 Received: from InterServ.Com ([165.121.1.68]) by list.cren.net with SMTP id <5040-6>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 13:09:37 -0400 Received: from 204.120.34.105 ([204.120.34.105]) by InterServ.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21393; Thu, 15 Jun 95 10:07:04 PDT Return-Path: Message-Id: <9506151707.AA21393@InterServ.Com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 10:07:03 PDT Reply-To: shept@InterServ.Com Sender: owner-frenchtalk@list.cren.net From: shept@InterServ.Com To: List About Everything French Subject: essai nucleaire X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) X-Listprocessor-Version: 7.2 -- ListProcessor by CREN Content-Type: text Content-Length: 570 Status: O >...on apprenait que les >Polynesiens n' etaient absoluement pas proteges lors de ces essais, >contrairement aux militaires, et toutes les consequences qui s'en >suivirent. > Jeff. Je voudrai savoir s'il existe une etude "serieuse" sur les consequences des essais sur les populations. (par "serieuse", j'exclue celles de Greenpeace et autres organisation qui utilisent ces etudes pour defendre leur cause, je parle donc d'etudes independantes...) Si il y a un expert dans la salle, qu'il leve la main... Non, qu'il s'exprime, ce sera plus efficace... Reynald From bbuckley@medeserv.com.au Fri Jun 16 05:36 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA22901 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 05:36:35 +0200 Received: from mesbne01.medeserv.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05182; Fri, 16 Jun 95 05:35:08 +0200 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mesbne01.medeserv.com.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA08272 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 13:31:33 +1000 Received: from hcb09ba8e.medeserv.com.au(203.9.186.142) by mesbne01 via smap (V1.3) id /mail/incoming/sma008266; Fri Jun 16 13:31:25 1995 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506160331.NAA08272@mesbne01.medeserv.com.au> From: Bruce Buckley Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 13:35:29 -1000 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: le bombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 108 Status: RO Stick your bloody nuclear bombs up your president's arse! Bruce Buckley, Australia, a Pacific nation. From keanaley@OntheNet.com.au Fri Jun 16 07:55 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA23142 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 07:55:33 +0200 Received: from diablo.OntheNet.com.au (diablo-i.OntheNet.com.au) by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05670; Fri, 16 Jun 95 07:54:06 +0200 Received: from ts-gc-1-p5.OntheNet.com.au by diablo.OntheNet.com.au using SMTP (8.6.12) Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506160553.PAA19573@diablo.OntheNet.com.au> From: Keanalley and Associates Pty Ltd Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 15:51:54 -700 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re France resuming nuclear testing in the Pacific Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 328 Status: RO Hi from Australia. We are horrified in Australia at France's decision to resume nuclear testing in the Pacific. I would be pleased if you would provide me with an email address of your government, so that I might send a message direct to them, in relation to this decision. Thanking you, Keanalley and Associates Pty Ltd. From nobody@acs.itd.uts.edu.au Fri Jun 16 05:11 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA22396 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 05:11:22 +0200 Received: from sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA05117; Fri, 16 Jun 95 05:09:50 +0200 Received: from pc420-04.itd.uts.EDU.AU by sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA09977 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 13:09:40 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506160309.AA09977@sequoia.itd.uts.EDU.AU> From: "U.T.S. Student At Broadway Campus." Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 12:42:33 1100 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Making my feelings felt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 445 Status: RO Re: Nuclear testing in the Pacific. If the french government feel the need to test nuclear bombs then 1. They obiously don't know all there is to know about them and hence can not asure the people living in the Pacific region of there safety. 2. The Australian people here by do allow the french to use the Australian embassy in France to carry out tests.(Australian ownered territory). STOP BOMBING THE PACIFIC STUPID FRENCH PEOPLE. From sdavis@OntheNet.com.au Fri Jun 16 11:42 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA25239 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 11:42:23 +0200 Received: from fontainebleau.ensmp.fr by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA01429; Fri, 16 Jun 95 11:40:58 +0200 Received: from diablo.OntheNet.com.au (diablo-i.OntheNet.com.au) by fontainebleau.ensmp.fr with SMTP id AA11843 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:46:41 +0200 Received: by diablo.OntheNet.com.au (8.6.12) Return-Path: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 17:33:13 +1000 Message-Id: <199506160733.RAA21970@diablo.OntheNet.com.au> To: scherer@ensmp.fr X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3.7 BETA Content-Type: text Content-Length: 436 Status: RO X-Personal_Name: Steve Davis From: sdavis@OntheNet.com.au Cc: sdavis@onthenet.com.au Subject: Nuclear testing Bonjour, Please pass on to your government and your President our dismay at the intention of the French Government to resume nuclear testing in the pacific. No doubt you have several scientists available who can arrange to do the testing somewhere on the outskirts of Paris. In protest, I am giving up French Onion Soup. From tpmaroo@peg.apc.org Sat Jun 17 04:47 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA03969 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 17 Jun 1995 04:47:42 +0200 Received: from peg.apc.org by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA29105; Sat, 17 Jun 95 04:45:47 +0200 Received: from t0.dialup.peg.apc.org (t0.dialup.peg.apc.org [192.203.176.128]) by peg.apc.org (8.6.9/Revision: 1.6 ) with SMTP id MAA26073 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 12:46:36 +1000 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506170246.MAA26073@peg.apc.org> From: Tony Pynsent Date: Sat, 17 Jun 95 12:45:29 -700 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Email Address for French Government Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 190 Status: RO Could you please assist us in the search for any email address that would assist us to voice our protest against the French Nuclear Testing in the Pacific. Thankyou for your assistance. From cabbage@iinet.net.au Sat Jun 17 05:14 MET 1995 Received: from cri.ensmp.fr (chailly) by paris with SMTP id AA04073 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 17 Jun 1995 05:14:23 +0200 Received: from classic.iinet.com.au by cri.ensmp.fr (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA29917; Sat, 17 Jun 95 05:12:52 +0200 Received: from jazz20.dy.iinet.net.au (jazz20.dy.iinet.net.au [203.8.222.20]) by classic.iinet.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05738 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 11:12:39 +0800 Return-Path: Message-Id: <199506170312.LAA05738@classic.iinet.com.au> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 95 11:12:50 0000 From: Desmond Hannah X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: scherer@ensmp.fr Subject: (no subject) X-Url: http://www.ensmp.fr/~scherer/adminet/min/pm/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Length: 416 Status: RO I have visited France often and look forward to touring there again. Yours is a beautiful country and your people make Australians most welcome. However your governmentıs planned resumption of nuclear testing in the Pacific is wrong. I am outraged at the high-handed conduct of your President Chirac and dismayed by his contemptuous dismissal of the views of the Pacific nations. Regards Desmond Hannah